Sunday, September 28, 2025

Carney declares Hamas (and Houthis?) deconstruction a Canadian priority

Does he know anything about this place

What do we know about Gaza, this new priority of mine?

Do you know anything about this place?



The idea of peace keeping in Gaza, of entering this tiny explosive territory, to intervene on their lives is kind of strange. I do not. So I asked Grok. Grok by xAI, what are the geographical dimensions of Gaza? Searched for "geographical dimensions of Gaza Strip" 10 results The Gaza Strip, often referred to simply as Gaza, is a narrow coastal territory on the eastern Mediterranean Sea, bordered by Israel to the north and east, Egypt to the southwest, and the sea to the west. Its geographical dimensions are as follows: Length: Approximately 41 kilometers (25 miles) from north to south. Width: Varies between 6 and 12 kilometers (3.7 and 7.5 miles) from east to west, making it a slender, elongated strip of land. Total area: 365 square kilometers (141 square miles), comparable in size to cities like Las Vegas or Philadelphia. These dimensions highlight Gaza's extreme population density, with over 2 million residents confined to this compact space. Note that while the overall territory's boundaries have remained stable since the 1949 armistice agreements, ongoing conflicts have led to restricted access and buffer zones within it, effectively reducing usable land for residents in recent years. Population density in Gaza West Bank geography What about produce? Agricultural. Wine? Searched for "agricultural production in Gaza Strip fruits vegetables olives wine" 15 results Agricultural Production in Gaza Gaza's agriculture has historically been a cornerstone of its economy and food security, leveraging its Mediterranean climate for diverse crops. Prior to the blockade imposed in 2007 and escalating conflicts (including the ongoing war since October 2023), the sector supported self-sufficiency in many staples and generated export revenue. However, restrictions on water, fertilizers, seeds, irrigation equipment, and access to land—coupled with destruction of farmland, greenhouses, and olive groves—have severely hampered production. As of 2024-2025, over 57% of cropland has been damaged, livestock losses exceed 70%, and the fishing fleet is decimated, exacerbating food insecurity for Gaza's 2.3 million residents. Despite this, small-scale farming persists where possible, focusing on resilient, high-value crops. Key Produce and Vegetables Gaza is (or was) largely self-sufficient in fruits and vegetables, with a pre-war production capacity of around 300,000 tons annually—enough to feed its population and export surplus. Major items include: Category Key Examples Notes Vegetables Tomatoes, cucumbers, eggplants, peppers, potatoes, onions, watermelons Gaza stopped importing most vegetables a decade ago due to self-sufficiency; seasonal shortages occur in winter. Urban and peri-urban farming fills gaps, but yields have dropped 90% in some areas due to saline soils and water shortages. Fruits Strawberries, citrus (oranges, grapefruits), dates, grapes, almonds Strawberries and citrus were major exports (e.g., 85% of pre-blockade produce went to Israel/West Bank). Dates are prominent in central Gaza (Deir el-Balah). Production relies on rain-fed clay soils in the east, but young trees struggle with salinity. Tree Crops Olives, olive oil Olives cover ~63% of horticultural tree area (e.g., 34% in Khan Yunis). Gaza produces high-quality olive oil; trees symbolize resilience but face systematic uprooting (112,000 destroyed 2000-2008). Self-sufficient in olive oil. Overall Trends: Horticultural trees occupy ~31% of cultivated land. The sector employs ~11% of Gaza's workforce formally (and up to 90% informally, including women). Pre-2007, exports included 400 trucks/day of produce. Today, buffer zones (up to 1.5 km wide) restrict 35% of farmland, causing ~$50 million annual losses. Wine Production Wine production in Gaza is minimal to nonexistent in modern times, primarily due to cultural, religious, and economic factors in a predominantly Muslim society. While grapes are grown (for table use or raisins), there's no significant commercial viticulture for winemaking. Historically, the broader Palestine region (including ancient Gaza) had a rich winemaking tradition dating back millennia—Roman and Byzantine mosaics depict grape cultivation, and Ottoman-era vineyards existed. However, post-1948 and especially since 1967, focus shifted to non-alcoholic crops like table grapes and dates. No current data indicates active wine production or exports from Gaza; any grape output supports local consumption rather than fermentation. If you'd like details on specific crops, historical exports, or comparisons to the West Bank (which has more robust olive and citrus sectors), let me know! Sure. I am going to ask a question about the history, and present day housing for the population, and the role of the region in the world.

Grok by xAI was able to narrow it down to this statement. Historical Context: The canal’s opening (1869) intensified Western control over Egypt. Britain bought Egypt’s shares (1875) after loan defaults, occupying Egypt (1882–1956). The 1917 Balfour Declaration, supporting a Jewish homeland, coincided with British control of Palestine and Suez, aiming to secure the canal’s eastern flank.

So it's always been a matter of material military world security that Israel be in place to protect the Suez Canal.

Is Mark Carney putting Canada up as one of the nations taking a security position on the Canal since the Houthis are allies of Hamas, and it's the Houthis raising shit with world trade on the Suez.

You can see why I'm getting mixed messages. First Carney tells me Muslim values are Canadian values. I am confused because a few days after this, Mark Carney declared war on Hamas. On or about Sep 20, 2025, Carney committed the Canadian Forces to a task force to deconstruct Hamas. No mean feat. Ask Israel. This is not small potatoes. Israel had 1,200 citizens slaughtered a couple years ago, and has to fight horrific world condemnation for pursuing the captors of Israeli hostages. 

Now Canada wants to engage Hamas in their nest of horrors called Gaza? And clean them out and establish a Palestinian state (next to the world's heart beat called the Suez Canal)? I have been around to long enough to know plausible deniability has left the building. These cunts are doing whatever they want now. Fuck everything. Right? 


Taking questions at the Council on Foreign Relations, Carney commits Canadian troops to a Hamas disarmament and elimination in Palestine: 

"The disarmament and elimination of Hamas as a force, certainly as a political force, military force first and political force is one of the…  September 22, 2025


I ask you, my fellow Canadians, do you want Canada to take Israel's place? @TheBuckYouWill @DearClimate 

Citizen X  @MackMcColl222 says, "I think not. We'd be there for a century, and lose a lot of people. You know, there are more Palestinians than Canadians?"

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